Finland and Åland Islands Development

[metpei]

I should add for clarification that missing city or garage error messages don't affect to game. For me it's just annoying.

I did yesterday that garage sell before Baltic update and it was some work in 2 profiles. I didn't sold any truck or fired any driver, it would have been easier, but moved then one by one.
No new missing garage errors, just these old:
00:01:29.209 : Garage update started.
00:01:31.014 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (havre)
00:01:31.053 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (rouen)
00:01:31.158 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (mans)
00:01:31.158 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (renne)
00:01:31.212 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (caen)
00:01:31.316 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (modena)
00:01:31.316 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (lorient)
00:01:31.321 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (parma)
00:01:31.322 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (angers)
00:01:31.391 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (borde)
00:01:31.391 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (poitiers)
00:01:31.391 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (tours)
00:01:31.391 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (vicenza)
00:01:31.392 : <ERROR> Garage spawn point not found! (orlea)

[samsunix]

This threat is like Finland, no one here... B4 "Finland doesn't exist" etc, how is it going? Could you please release map plan?

[juliussasar]

Patience, comrade. As plans go, I remember them last working on Kittilä, with highways 6, 14 and 21 also somewhere on their way. But I reckon the team is occupied with merging promods Finland with SCS content for the foreseeable future.

[samsunix]

Great! Thank you for an update

If I may give some pointers? (going to give em anyway, ha ha).

SCS got it right, driving with truck inner city of Helsinki is forbidden.

How ever there is marked route to docks as it is 'presented' on SCS version of the Helsinki

There are a lot HCT / Tandem chassis truck + true trailer, incompatible cargo areas (but this you already knew for sure).

Both maps (promods / scs) are missing a lot point of interests. But I will leave that to that. I been trucking around Finland for ~10 years so if you want some kind of list, I am more than pleased to make it

That said, Thank you for your hard work. Some views are really amazing, almost art like and sometimes I miss home because of those.

[Shiva]

Let's add a Real! map into play:
Helsinki - Access Regulation

Key:
orange – areas where lorries over 12 meters are forbidden
red lines – recommended routes between Vuosaari harbour and main roads
grey lines – recommended routes between passenger harbours and main roads

There is another map too, in the first link.


Good link for Mappers: Urban Acces Regulations in Europe.

[Davyddin]

Very interesting, thanks for this map Shiva! This means SCS has actually done good research, despite my initial sadness that so little of the more central parts of Helsinki are represented. But it also opens up some realistic road possibilities for ProMods, I think! (Do note, however, that I am not a dev, nor speaking on behalf of the team here.)

[Shiva]

Davydin, I suspect that SCS might have chosen Länsisatama due to it being easier and less space consuming, than adding either Eteläsatama or Katajanokkaterminaalit?
What I DO wonder is... why was Gräsviksgatan / Ruoholahdenkatu added to SCS Helsinki?

[juliussasar]

The overwhelming majority of ferries to Tallinn leave from Länsisatama. Vuosaari has ferries to Travemünde and Muuga (freight only). I suppose Länsisatama was selected over Vuosaari for superior architecture and trams.

[Shiva]

juliussasar, yeah, that could have been a major part too.
Eteläsatama and Katajanokka, they look boring and old, compared to Länsisatama.
As far as I remember those 2 old and I have not seen any new pictures that would change my mind either.

[Nissantruck]

Passenger ferries from Eteläsatama and Katajanokka in Helsinki do take trucks with trailers too in to the ferries,that go to Stockholm and Tallinn from those ports,but they can only use specific roads for that.
But they can use other roads too,if the goods that they are carrying in the trailers needs to be delivered to the city center of Helsinki.
I have been using all of the ferry ports in Helsinki with a car or by walking in to the ferry.
So i think that Promods could add more roads in to Helsinki,even if the real life trucking to certain places in the Helsinki city center doesn`t allow for that,because after all it would be nice to have more roads in Helsinki then.
I do mean after the Pm map is combined with the Baltic Dlc.
That is my opinion and everybody else can have own opinions about that.