Balkans Development

[Punkii]

tolls on autoput from border to belgeade
https://www.google.de/maps/@45.0487202, ... a=!3m1!1e3
https://www.google.de/maps/@44.8827805, ... a=!3m1!1e3
and the northern autoput has also tolls in know it I drive there many times

[speedy650]

We don't have Serbian toll stations yet. And frankly, we have not seen any on streetview in our areas of development (apart from a defunct toll plaza in Novi Sad)

few days ago i drove whole A1 in serbia, there were few tolls and new toll station is builded here. One main is someehere before belegrad, + before it there is the one in construction, there are tolls on the highway intersections and last was after niš (road to bulgaria)
and on serbia magiar crossing (lefting EU) are secured borders, they check some cars and trucks, and what trucks have inside trailer, this will be nice to have if it is possible.
//edit i drive to bulgaria, little bit on a4, so i dont see full a1, if it will be possible i will try to make a photo of tolls and borders, but we will go thru serbia back to slovakia at night

[gibanica]

I doubt you can make real toll state in promods, since its not unified yet...its mostly closed toll system at least for some parts of highways.
I ll try you to explain, maybe could be difficult to get it since you are not a local..

you supposed to have 4 highway tollgates on your developing part so far and 2 accsess road tollgates
With the following:

Tolls with prices Category VI (Trucks with trailers and semi-trailers since you need it for ets2):

Adasevci tollgate, Closed a toll system https://www.google.rs/maps/@45.0481341, ... authuser=0
(paying for Highwway part Simanovci - /take ticket/ to Adasevci - 19e / 2.260,00 RSD)

Simanovci tollgate Closed a toll system https://www.google.rs/maps/@44.882356,2 ... authuser=0
(paying for Highwway part Adasevci - /take ticket/ to Simanovcii - 19e / 2.260,00 RSD)

Stara Pazova tollgate Closed a toll system
https://www.google.rs/maps/@45.0058193, ... authuser=0
https://www.google.rs/maps/@45.2878681, ... authuser=0
(paying for Highwway part Stara Pazova - /take ticket/ to Novi Sad North exit road tollgate - 10.50e/ 1.250,00 RSD)

Novi Sad north tollgate Open toll system so far, but soon in abt few months toll gate will be up, so it will be closed system as well.
https://www.google.rs/maps/@45.3134751, ... authuser=0
(paying for Highwway part Novi Sad north accsess road tollgate - /take ticket/ to Sirig - TBA/TBA)

Sirig tollgate Open a toll system - so far, but soon in abt few months toll gate will be up, so it will be closed system as well.
https://www.google.rs/maps/@45.4249849, ... authuser=0
(paying for Highwway part Stara Pazova - /take ticket/ to Sirig - 16e/ 1.940,00 RSD)

here you can find a full list of tolls: http://www.putevi-srbije.rs/index.php/en/price-list

If you need help, just shoot out.

[speedy650]

gibanica good explanation, sorry if i said bad info because im just a turist who went thru serbia

[I<3Driving]

Dear Promods,
I am writing this just to help you in case you left out something you didn't mean to.

So, since we are discussing tollgates, I am pretty sure (from what I've seen on Squirrel's streams) that you are missing some in Croatia.

First, I believe that you are missing 3 tollgates in the eastern part of Croatia to make it a closed system like it is IRL.

1. Tollgate Lipovci on E70 near the Croatia/Serbia border
2. Tollgate Osijek for E73
3. (not seen on the map from Squirrel's stream) tollgate Slavonski Brod Istok (you have made the tollgate Slavonski Brod Zapad, but I haven't seen the Istok (East) one even though you have made that connection to E70).




Google maps (you can see what they look like in Google Streetview):

1. https://www.google.hr/maps/@45.0466971, ... a=!3m1!1e3

2. https://www.google.hr/maps/@45.5752386, ... a=!3m1!1e3

3. https://www.google.hr/maps/@45.1745988, ... a=!3m1!1e3


Second, there are also tollgates I have noticed missing in the Northern part around Zagreb. Now I don't know if these are left out on purpose due to scale and if it's like that in other parts of the European map, but I will pinpoint them anyway just in case.

1. Tollgate Bregana near Croatia/Slovenia border on E70 (open system, no entrance ticket, you pay on the spot)
2. Tollgate Zaprešić on E59
3. Tollgate Macelj near Croatia/Slovenia border on E59
4. Tollgate Sveta Helena on E65
5. Tollgate Goričan near Croatia/Hungary border on E65



1. https://www.google.hr/maps/@45.8391141, ... a=!3m1!1e3
2. https://www.google.hr/maps/@45.8749528, ... a=!3m1!1e3
3. https://www.google.hr/maps/@46.2600587, ... a=!3m1!1e3
4. https://www.google.hr/maps/@45.9200817, ... a=!3m1!1e3
5. https://www.google.hr/maps/@45.9200817, ... a=!3m1!1e3

From what I've seen, part around Rijeka is done right (I don't travel that way very often).

[jdenm8]

1. Tollgate Lipovci on E70 near the Croatia/Serbia border
2. Tollgate Osijek for E73
3. (not seen on the map from Squirrel's stream) tollgate Slavonski Brod Istok (you have made the tollgate Slavonski Brod Zapad, but I haven't seen the Istok (East) one even though you have made that connection to E70).

We are missing the first Tollbooth. We just forgot to put it in and haven't fixed it yet.

#2 and #3 are definitely present, though they might be missing their map overlays. It'll be fixed before release.

1. Tollgate Bregana near Croatia/Slovenia border on E70 (open system, no entrance ticket, you pay on the spot)
2. Tollgate Zaprešić on E59
3. Tollgate Macelj near Croatia/Slovenia border on E59
4. Tollgate Sveta Helena on E65
5. Tollgate Goričan near Croatia/Hungary border on E65

#1 likely won't fit. The border crossing is already very large.

#2 and #3 will probably be compressed out.


I don't know the status of #4 and #5. Might not get done.

[ScuL]

Thanks for all the detailed information, we will try and work with it but this is too much detail to enter in PM 2.20. We will have to postpone this for later versions.

The tollgate at the HR-SRB border has been placed by me two days ago, Squirrel's version doesn't have it yet.

For the second Croatian part, toll gates 1,2 & 3 cannot fit because there is no room. Both connections from Slovenia to the Zagreb ring are untolled.
#4 would be really difficult to fit and #5 too, it could be possible but at the moment it would destroy the game experience.

[I<3Driving]

Thanks for the replies guys

If you need any kind of information for further updates/development, we'll be here

[Kmicic92]

Hi,
I have seen on beta testing videos some wrong traffic rules definitions. In Slovenia and Serbia headlights must turn on during the day and speedlimit for trucks on secondary roads in Slovenia is not 90 km/h but 80km/h.

[ScuL]

I have updated the mandatory lights for Slovenia and Serbia

However I have to disagree with your claim of the speed limit not being 90km/h.
All these pages say that the speed limit is 90km/h

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_in_Slovenia
http://www.slovenia.si/slovenia/in-brie ... formation/
http://www.highwaymaps.eu/slovenia
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/travel/country/slovenia/
http://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safe ... its_en.htm